The Fall Season of Womanhood: Silent Initiations, Loneliness, and Renewal

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We're back, season two of honey toes. I can't believe we're actually already here. Season two, this feels like we were just here. I know it does. Oh god, okay, but we're a little bit a little bit older, little bit wiser, a little bit more cracked open, and we're very excited to be here together in person again, because it's very rare. Yeah, I'm happy we're together. I know it's so weird. We have our weekly calls, yeah, and just seeing each other through a screen all the time. And now we're face to face. It's really not, well, it doesn't seem like that much time had passed. It was just like, very quick. But then when I came back here to the studio, I was just like, Oh my God. I feel like this looks like just here, yeah, literally, just here. I know it's weird. So anyway, so we're excited to do a little bit of an intro episode today. We're going to talk about the guests that we have coming this season with a theme. Season, what the themes are for this season, what you can expect, and just a little bit of catch up of what we've been up to for the last few months. And just to hang out and say hi and welcome back to season two, which is very, very exciting. We're doing this with fall. So this is going to be our season of silent initiations with women and yeah, so let's just get started. Welcome back.

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Okay, so what have you been up to since you've been home, since you left me last I feel like you've been up to a lot more, because probably, yeah, it's been about it's been about, it's been about three months since our last recording. So you've been, you've been very busy because you're in the middle of a move. But so what do you think like you're feeling this season, this upcoming scenes, like, where are you? Where are you? Honestly, it's so interesting because having had the first season that was just you and I, and now we're going into this whole new experience with doing a full season with guests.

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I think that the dimension and the depth that we're going to be able to get to with this, like actually talking to people that are specialists in these realms that we're so intrigued by, and I think it's, yeah, I think it's like really healing work too. So, yeah, that's, that's where I'm at from going from season one to Season Two. It's like we laid the groundwork, and now I feel as though these, these women that are coming on to interview is really more of the whole puzzle coming together in a way. Yeah, it's so interesting, because fall now is, like, every season has such characteristics to it, and now that we're moving into a little bit more of a fall, it's, it's starting to get a little bit quieter, but also it's still, like, busy in its own way, because, for instance, like kids are starting school, but maybe it's a little bit slower for the parents, because they have that summer break off, depending on the age and you're you're starting to, like, Go a little bit more inward, starting to prepare for winter, when you kind of, like, look at the season symbolically, and then you kind of, we're trying to reflect that here in honeytoes. That's what brie and I decided with our seasons moving forward. So the season of fall is going to really reflect that similar qualities of fall itself, like the shedding of the old and, I mean, kinds of the new Yeah, and like, getting cozy and warm within yourself and within your safe space, and, yeah, getting ready for that winter hibernation. So

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basically, for me, where am I at this season? There's, there's so many changes for me, because while they're starting daycare this year for the first time, so crazy. No, I never actually thought I was gonna do daycare, but it's a full time job, and being a mom is like, if you decide to be a full time mom and you've also been full time with him, it'll be, he'll be three and a half, more than over three and a half by the time he goes. That's a long time to be a full time, full time mom with your Well, luckily, because we discussed in the last season, right? Like, I do have, I do have a great community, like, a lot of help with it, but it is very difficult and scary for me. So I guess this kind of like symbolizes what we're about to move into with this year, and kind of like themes for the season of letting go. And same thing for me with, like, Wilder and him being in a new space, but it's really great for him because he'll be around kids. So I'm excited for this season, because I feel like all the lineup that we're talking to like they're going to be so profound and inspirational in just what we were talking about earlier is like embodying these things more, because all the conversations we had last season were really great in theory. But the thing that Bri and I realized a lot was like, We really need to live it a little bit more without feeling guilty of putting too much pressure on because, yeah, we're busy. Yeah, we are busy. But I do think that the more that you immerse yourself in it, and the more that you surround yourself with people that are in the same vibe, I guess, or want to talk about the same topics, or have that growth mindset, it's instantly easier. It's instantly easier to feel self motivated, to to embody all of this, this work more and to these practices. It's it's interesting, because I want to reflect, I want to actually ask you a question, what was.

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How is this season like moving into the fall, offering more softening for you versus our last season, because we are trying, and we're talking a lot about like embodying the feminine a bit more, learning how to slow down and being okay with that. But with this podcast, because just like any business or brand or anything that you're doing in the world. It requires that mass tuning into that masculine energy, which is producing, creating, constantly being on, yeah, and, you know, it takes, like a big team to do things at big scales, and right now, it's just you and I, baby. So in order to avoid burnout, that's why, that's why we decided to create these seasons. So that's what you can expect moving forward with honey toast is, is our seasons will reflect, will reflect the seasons of the year, like, yeah, and also for us too. I mean, I think that if you and I don't give ourselves enough grace as full time moms of two kids, and you know, wanting to be really present in that, but still also wanting to work on this and build this out a lot of work for two people. So, so what do you think has changed for you since that approach of last season? Because we really notice it coming back together. Yeah, together again for this one, because we have such limited time until we're neighbors. Yes, so soon, so soon to get together and actually to do the work. Because, yeah, I mean, I will, it's interesting even in the preparation leading up to the season and figuring out, you know, what kinds of people we want to

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incorporate into the messaging and into the output of all of this. And I think that just doing the research in and of itself, of really, kind of diving into what other women are working on made me feel so inspired. And so like so many light bulbs were going off about like, wow, I thought that I knew a lot about certain things, and what I'm learning is so beyond my scope, and it's just really inspiring and motive, motivating to help me feel more in touch with myself, or even more inspired to be in touch with ourselves. Yeah, because I think we all want that, right? We all want this connection to ourselves. We all want to feel fulfilled within our own bodies and feel enough. And we all feel, I'm sure I'm gonna speak for all women when I say this. I'm sure at some point in our life, at one way or another, even if it's at a subconscious level or at a conscious level, we've we've felt less than in a way, and it could have been in any

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aspect, right? It could have been physically, emotionally, logically, whatever. So it'd be really nice to know how to come into the self and feel okay with that and kind of learning techniques and living by these practices and rituals and speaking to other women and surrounding yourself with language and practices that encourage this, support it and and encourage, encourage you to do it yourself. So yeah, that's what excites me the most. I feel like the first season was really a great basis for you and I to just kind of lay the groundwork and lay the pillars of of what we want to encompass, what we want to talk about, because honeytoes is really just about

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us, like embodiment and women and and the life of a woman, and living your life as a woman. So

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I'm very eager to see kind of how this begins to, yeah, me too, transform over over time, me too. And you know,

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not only am I excited to see how it transforms, but I feel like I'm also excited to see how I transform within the work, because I

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am noticing, like,

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going through the process of doing all this, like, there's a lot of hurdles. What do you mean that we face in terms of, like, doing the work? Oh, my podcast being a full something, yeah. And so,

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you know, I feel, I feel like that's a big hurdle for me, is finding the balance in that time. What do you what do you feel like this hurdle of working on this stream, or just like the biggest hurdle in terms of where you're at in life, and like what you've experienced going from the first season to the

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second? Oh, that's a really good question. I would probably say the biggest hurdle from going from last season to the season would be

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time realizing how much time.

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But a whole season has gone by and and we've been, you know, very protective of our sacred time together, but you've been through crazy, this whole own situation, of, like, your own past living,

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my past living. Well, you know what? I mean, we dealt with a lot in the last three months we were in this crazy court, yeah, okay,

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that's like, took up all your time, crazy.

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Case, we were literally had to be in Connecticut to be in court. We were up there for two weeks. Well, you might as well share the story. Now, it was wild. We lived in a house in Connecticut

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when Josh first played for the Yankees, and it had some mold in it, and we needed to

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move out. Anyways, it was the mean you could read about it. It literally is, yeah, like it's literally is, yeah, it's this whole big, honestly, the whole thing is kind of stupid. We moved into this house. It had molds. I was pregnant with Lily at the time. Aubrey was one. Josh obviously was playing. We wanted, requested to terminate the lease, because the guy had to, you know, rip out part of his house. And it didn't go as planned. And so he was, you had a very interesting experience for the very first time. So anyways, he wanted to keep the security deposit, and that's why we ended up having to go to court. It was so weird. And this is like, but we never anticipated it. Yeah, it was, like, three, three and a half years ago, and we never anticipated it. We were like, well, we have to move out of the house, it'll be resolved, like, obviously, and it wasn't. So that was strange, but I learned a lot, yeah, because I've never been in a courtroom before. So that was the first, and it was in front of a jury, which was so and you're almost laughing.

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It was very nerve wracking, very nerve wracking. The movie your life was a movie. Was like a movie was a movie. Yeah, I felt like I was in an episode of I was in an episode of life. That's what you've been to Yes. It was like, we could barely talk because you had to hand in your phone. It's like, Yeah, well, I'm sure people, anybody here who's been on jury duty for a case that's lasted a certain amount of days, you know what it's like you're in that courtroom for all day. So you were busy doing that, I was busy doing that, and you're preparing for me. And had to go to our new house because we're moving, yeah, which is in a different state. So that's a whole other and for me, you know, I've just been really enjoying summer and spring up north, relaxing and enjoying the perfect weather. You know what? We wait all year round for, like, the most perfect two months of summer when the bugs aren't bad, because, you know, they're just hatching a spring, and it's like horrible in Muskoka, and then in the fall, it's great. So we have a great few months coming up, and I've just been really enjoying my time with my kids, enjoying my time with my family. My parents finally moved up to the property this spring, so that was really exciting, having them settle in. And then summer's always busy. You know, people always like to visit, come up and hang out and and so great. Lots of life up there. So that's what we've been up to. And then, of course, in my spare time, working the podcast, working my sister, working on my own personal brand, too. So that's what, that's where things have shifted. And we have a busy year up ahead together. Yes, we do real troubles, busy year, but I love it. Me too. Yeah, it does. I'm so pumped. I think that this whole experience has brought us together even closer. Well, if you can't live with your best friend, work with them.

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I didn't even can't beat them during live with them. Well, work together in the past before. I mean, like, obviously we mentioned this before, but our first few jobs were all together. We've worked in restaurants, bars, ran our own company together, and now remember, approached me with this next project, which is this honey toast. I was like, hell yeah, let's let's onboard and do what we need to do, because we love to chat. Yeah, as you can tell you, for good, might as well just put a microphone there. Number one treat. Number one treat I handed my resume great at chatting. So it says you're an Air sign. You're a Gemini. You guys are literal Air signs. You communicate well. So Well, I feel like we would be doing a disservice if we didn't at least give a little bit of insight on what we have coming this season. Some of our guests,

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the whole season is about like womanhood in its depths and in places that we don't normally

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seek out. And I feel like silently go through totally we don't think about normally, other than it just happens to us. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of like the societal norm that there's just all these places and spaces and topics that are undiscussed and untouched and untapped, I shouldn't say completely. Obviously. Yeah, it is. Women are niche topics, but all of these areas I feel should be what is mainstream man, it's complete connectivity, coming back to the self, you know, understanding yourself on such a deep,

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deeply healing level.

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But yeah, so, like, let's give a little spicy teasers, like, what I mean? What can I say? The theme and stuff that we're gonna go I think that Emmy Robin is going to give us an epic episode and get all into the nitty gritty details. Yeah, about birth and the.

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Woman's body and our innate abilities. I think that that's going to be epic. Oh, of course, I'm really excited about that. I think that, you know, Rebecca is going to bring kind of an approach to, like, simple sensuality, and go into the parts of the woman that should be

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really, kind of almost put on display and celebrated in such a big way, and yet they're almost looked at as shameful. I Yeah, the way the season quickly is we do have guests. So half of the season is going to be virtual. Half of the season is going to be in person guests, and some and you're going to get to meet some of our very, very best friends that we could do these goddess girl calls that we were telling you about in season one with. So half will be in person, half virtual. So our decision for brie and I was very difficult at first to decide where or how we were gonna record, but we eventually decided in person for various reasons, and honestly, I'm so grateful that we made that decision, because I do, without a doubt,

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filming these and just having this quality time together in person exponentially changes things. I mean, just the energy around all of it, like having a conversation with you face to face. Yeah, great. So nice. Is this why we started this? No, I'm just kidding. Just just for us, real reasons to have solo trips, telling, like, telling her in bed, we're like, so we have a podcast. We need to get together three or four times a year. We're together for at least two weeks. No, no, you're telling your husband, like, we actually need to live side by side. He's like, Oh, okay. Like, we'll just know what he was like, not in the sticks, because we're like, really the sticks? He's like, maybe just a little, maybe not so many little neighbor. He was like, those a bit too much. Yeah. So without giving too much away about our guests and who's coming up are, like, Rebecca and me that Bri was just mentioning, we're going to be speaking to women who are all around the globe like we're talking, you have women from Dubai, Costa, Rica, Bali, Hawaii, North America, yeah, Central America, yeah. And who knows, where else? Some from Canada, even. So we you This is just like a sign that this is global, these conversations, these topics that affect women, you know. And again, this is a women's pocket men. We encourage you to listen, because we are all interconnected. Men and women are co creators. We are balanced, and the more that we can understand the depths of one another, the better we can co create together, and the better we can can make this planet a great place. Yeah, so this season, you can expect a lot of exploration from these silent initiations that women go through. This could be expanded from, but not limited to menstruation or first cycles, our

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different phases of young girl into teenagehood, into womanhood, into motherhood, into Crone, into grandmother cycles, cycles of women as well, like you mentioned a little bit as well, birth and being pregnant. Then there's womb work and menstrual cycles and blood rituals like literally, this season is about things that women go through for the first time, but we don't necessarily really talk about them. Or if you come from a family that does talk about it, that's fantastic. But some people never mention it, right? Like, maybe we're not celebrating it. We're celebrating Yeah, I feel like even some of the topics, although they're mainstream, discussed, right? They're not celebrated for being something that should be very ceremonial or, like, mainstream norm, right? Because, even if it's just like, okay, women are giving birth, left, right and center, it's just a normal thing women do, right? But right? But it's like, why is that not the number one priority of our because this is the thing of our society, the world. Go around the women who are giving birth for the new generations and coming from women to women who have given birth multiple times and have had experiences in various degrees. It is just this feels like a part of our mission now, right? Yeah, to be able to connect with other experts in these fields, to share and spread this information, and information like this in this podcast, and to tell other women and other men and other people in the world that this is the knowledge that's available. These are ancient traditions and wisdom that's passed down that we may not have access to, but because my grandmother, my cousin's friends this they pass this down on a notebook. These are things that are

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inherent but also not always known, right? So we're going to explore those a lot this season. Really talk to experts in their fields, really get expansive in the understanding of how to come back into the body, understand the body and live in the body, and from a place of the body, rather than always from a place of an external perspective and fixing and bettering and kind of like we discussed a lot, actually, like hiding, hiding parts of us away, yeah, or being ashamed, or feeling.

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Fearful or afraid of what our true power and depth can hold. I think that this is a very liberating season for for us all, and we hope that it resonates with you as much as we feel that it is really going to resonate and already is with us. I think that the exploration into those places, and like you said, really making them the norm and making that mainstream, I think, is vital, yeah, and now more than ever, we feel like these are the time. This is the time for these types of conversations, because we do see, like femininity and these types of word embodiment starting to surface a lot more in our culture, in our society. And it's, it's kind of grabbing attention of people, but it's, it's more about like, understanding what that is and why it's important at this time in life, especially with, like so much AI coming into the world and more technology, it's so important to really understand the difference between living in a space that's virtual, so that's like social media in her head,

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anywhere but the body and coming back home. Because as women, our most powerful tools, especially with the women we're going to be talking to, we'll just reinforce all these thoughts and concepts is the body, the intuition, the knowing is something that virtual spaces and AI will never be able to provide Right, right? So I think that's why these types of conversations that you and I are having with these women and with all of you guys is very relevant, important and relevant now more than ever. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But honestly, I think that, you know Danielle and I have our experiences and our understanding, but we would love to hear from you guys. We would love to hear from our listeners, like, what is the content and what are the topics that you feel either we've touched on and you want to hear more about or something that you're really interested in, whether it be about womanhood, wellness, motherhood, whatever it is, because I think that if one person is thinking it, then there's probably more people thinking it. So let's dive deeper into whatever, whatever other topics you guys really feel are calling to you. Yeah, because I think we have a lot more in common than we realize, and I think that's we're so interconnected intricate, and I think that's what brings us together more than we realize, is why we're feeling and going through a lot more of the same things than

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what is spoken about, which is what we want to talk About, or the the unknown, the obscure, the the

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unspoken. Connections, the unspoken things. And how can we genuinely get to that feeling, rather than just putting it on as an act, yeah? And sifting through life feeling disconnected like on such a surface level, on such a surface level, you know? And really crack ourselves open, and we're gonna feel all the feels this season, yeah, and we're gonna go through those roller coasters. So hopefully these conversations will bring some epiphanies, bring some new ideas, some new inspirations and works, new new connections for you. So we, like Bri said, we would love to hear from you. Would love to connect with you. We will write back every single time. I mean, within give us 24 hours, because I love the kids, but we will generally, it's always us commenting. Would love to hear from you. Love to interact. And it means so much to me. For those of you who have reached out and supported us so far, season one, honestly, all of the period back, and there's been a lot of emotional moments of so of women being like this resonates so much. I felt this so much like, oh my gosh, we're not speaking into the abyss alone. We're not speaking into the conversation, at least with you, yeah? But anything I got to talk to you, that's true. So we're we've really put ourselves out there with topics that maybe aren't so common, yeah, common, but not so common. But I'm like, should we talk about this, right? Fuck it, let's talk about it, yeah. Let's talk about it, yeah. So I love it, so tell us what your Fuck it. Let's talk about it. Thing is, thing is, and give us more info for our following season, whatever. So we are on all major listening platforms. We are a video podcast as well. So if you want to see what we look like, you just want to creep you want to see your facial expressions and feel like you're in the room with us. Please do come over there, subscribe, like, comment, share with anybody that you feel like might resonate with the content that we're sharing. We are just so excited. I think you can feel from the energy of this conversation of what is to come. So please check us out, and we love you so much. We're very thrilled for everything and grateful that you're here with us. So thank you so much. Wonderful day. Take care. Hope you tune in.

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